Sabotage

[Cpt.Dave]

Hi all,

Been away for a while from your cod4 server as been busy playing cod-WAW.
Great to see that you now are rotating the game mode's for the maps.
But the only game mode that can get a little frustrating :1 (65): is Sabotage, all it seems to of turned into is a camp fest, and i know your rules say not to moan about camping, but after a while the whole point of the game mode is forgotten and every one waiting around the bomb instead of trying to work as a team and plant the bomb.
Maybe what would make it better(in my opinion) would maybe be a longer re spawn time if you are killed, given the teams more chance of getting to the target, or maybe 3 deaths and after that you have to wait for next round.
Sure there will be many out there who like it the way it is but just giving my opinion.

See you on the Battle Field :1 (97):

[A TIN OF ZED]

Thanks for the constructive post dude :1 (97):. Im sure the TINS have talked about this before.....................

[A TIN OF COMPO]

I think some good points have been made there, any chance we can follow them up at all?

[PigDog]

Hi all,
little frustrating http://www.atinof.com/forum/images/smilies/1%20(65).gif is Sabotage, all it seems to of turned into is a camp fest, and i know your rules say not to moan about camping

Maybe what would make it better(in my opinion) would maybe be a longer re spawn time if you are killed, given the teams more chance of getting to the target, or maybe 3 deaths and after that you have to wait for next round.


Don’t see how this will help. The person that camped you will still be there regardless of your spawn time. Camping is the problem but anti camping play such as nade spam, bunny hopping etc is not allowed so you kinda have to get on with it(this isnt a pro bunny hop rant). I think you should modify the "camping is allowed" rule, you can camp but if people are clearly not playing the game type then maybe there should be a warning issued. Tin of servers have warnings for everything except the one that can murder a really good game, excessive camping based on ratio whoring and screenshots for mummy. I know there is a warning for excessive anything but I have never seen it used to take control of a royal camp fest in sab.

weak example time

you are playing domination, the sun is high and not one person goes for a flag cap, this could go on for 15 minutes and nothing would happen, no warnings etc but what if it was sabotage and someone takes the bomb into the back corner of the map and camps his or her little pro heart out. Im 100% that you would warn the person camping and the back of the map with the bomb for "not playing the game type".

[A TIN OF COMPO]

Got to say that there is another good point or two in that post, thank you Pigdog.

The idea of policing different game types in differing ways could cause some confusion, but I think you have a good point when it comes to the camping in sabotage ,ode.

Theres no reason that an admin couldnt remined players of teh game type, however the admin would have to be victim of the camping to know about it or would have to rely on other players who may be out to stich other players up.


Have to think hard about this one.

[A TIN OF IRNBRU]

We all camp from time to time. Cover the flag or to cover the bomb but thats why we have all anti camp munitions like smoke, flash and stun nades. These weapons used in the correct manner are more effective for anti camping than they way they are used presently. Throw all your nades in an area at the start of a map for example cos you know thats where everybody starts from.

Your examples are not really reflective of true gameplay. Not everbody camps. Thats why on domination you would not go 15 mins without a flag take. Or on sabotage it's simple. There is a little red flag with the words KILL above the owner of the bomb. This is when it is more effective to use your nades to kill and move the bomb.

The main issue should be people not using there munition in the correct manner instead of just looking at the score at the end of the map. Coming top of the leaderboard does not mean you were the best cos you had 88 kills and you died 87 times. It should be rewarded with the most enemy kills to the least deaths ratio but the maps are too small and gameplay to weak for this to happen. So unfortunately you'll have to live with it until there is a better game.

[PigDog]

i thought it reflected it very well, in fact i plucked my eyebrows in it:1 (77):

[A TIN OF PORK]

you talking about camping but how long do you have to stay in the one postion to be counted as camping.

you just cant time everyone

[A TIN OF SNIPE]

I camp :1 (97): especially in WAW, only because I use 1 shot rifles

[PigDog]

you talking about camping but how long do you have to stay in the one postion to be counted as camping.

you just cant time everyone

To be fair im not having a dig at campers/defenders etc, my point is that in Sabotage if the enemy have planted the bomb and we need to defuse it there are always 4 players camping without even attempting to defuse etc. Before the bomb is planted it will be very hard to police, they can rightly come back with "im defending". Only when the bomb is planted will the real enemy reveal itself:1 (77):. TDM, DOM and ffa is ratio whore paradise but SAB still has a chance

Save the sabotage save the world

Pigdog Petrelli

[A TIN OF POTS]

you talking about camping but how long do you have to stay in the one postion to be counted as camping.

you just cant time everyone

Some servers I go in its 3.25 seconds usually before you are accused of it!

[A TIN OF BILBO]

Some servers I go in its 3.25 seconds usually before you are accused of it!


They know you well then http://www.langkawi.dk/smileys/z043.gif


Bilbo.

[*LoLo64*]

Hi all :1 (64):
i agree what's Cpt Dave say about Pps who dont "play" the game type :1 (82):
but your server is so nice anyway! dont change anything or maybe just getting point for Heli shot Lol